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Re: W111 1965 220SEb "Restoration" Project
« Reply #30 on: January 31, 2019, 07:45:25 PM »
Finally got some work done despite the cool temperatures:

http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/1/31_Not...Finished.html

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Re: W111 1965 220SEb "Restoration" Project
« Reply #31 on: February 03, 2019, 09:32:17 AM »

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Re: W111 1965 220SEb "Restoration" Project
« Reply #32 on: February 03, 2019, 08:48:16 PM »
Tore out the dash  Not pleasant, but it had to be done.

http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/2/3_Gotta_Dash.html

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Re: W111 1965 220SEb "Restoration" Project
« Reply #33 on: February 04, 2019, 01:16:11 AM »
Captivating and informative as always. It seems like the factory used contact cement on the top of the dashboard metal between it and the pad. It took careful use of a scraper to get the nearly perfect brown dashboard pad removed from my 200D, and that was coming from a car that spent its life in the Pacific Northwest where the sun rarely comes out (the original headliner was still in perfect condition). I personally wouldn't want to glue the new pad on with contact cement unless it makes it less prone to warping.
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Re: W111 1965 220SEb "Restoration" Project
« Reply #34 on: February 04, 2019, 05:05:20 AM »
That's interesting, as I had an exchange with Aaron and he suggested that glue or contact element was never used. I assumed that in my case the adhesion was due to the car's lengthy exposure to the Arizona sun that had caused the material to break down and fuse to the metal.

I will say that if there was glue used, it wasn't applied in a consistent manner nor in great quantities. Unless there's a glaring reason to do so, the replacement will not be glued.

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Re: W111 1965 220SEb "Restoration" Project
« Reply #35 on: February 04, 2019, 04:06:07 PM »
Nicely done as always. :)

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Re: W111 1965 220SEb "Restoration" Project
« Reply #36 on: February 04, 2019, 04:32:17 PM »
That's interesting, as I had an exchange with Aaron and he suggested that glue or contact element was never used. I assumed that in my case the adhesion was due to the car's lengthy exposure to the Arizona sun that had caused the material to break down and fuse to the metal.

I will say that if there was glue used, it wasn't applied in a consistent manner nor in great quantities. Unless there's a glaring reason to do so, the replacement will not be glued.

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Re: W111 1965 220SEb "Restoration" Project
« Reply #37 on: February 04, 2019, 05:41:40 PM »
In all my years of restoring Finnies and W109s I've never seen a glued dash pad, but yes, I've seen many of them stuck. And I do mean STUCK! ;) I've seen a lot of "excellent used" ones split behind the cluster pod when they're installed, too- they need to be transferred almost right away or it seems they start shrinking after removal.

This pretty much confirms that it wasn't glue, in my opinion. The material (foam?) in the dash pad was broken down pretty badly, making me suspect that it just fused with the metal in places where it was in contact with it due to exposure to the elements.

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« Reply #38 on: February 04, 2019, 05:42:00 PM »
Nicely done as always. :)

Thank you!

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Re: W111 1965 220SEb "Restoration" Project
« Reply #39 on: February 08, 2019, 06:27:08 PM »
A funny story:

Today I drove the 220SEb to work and then on to my headliner guy's shop so he could survey it in anticipation of doing the headliner and related items early next month. It's a roughly 20 mile drive one way to work, half on surface streets and the other half on a reversible toll road with limited access/highway speeds (65 mph.) It's a combination of the two over to the headliner shop of about 10 miles, making the return back to the house much the same of about 30 miles for a total of about 60 miles round trip.

We've all been in my shoes - a relatively new (to you) unproven car, taking it out on the road, listening to every noise, vibration, hum, whatever, riding on the edge just waiting for something (bad) to happen. You hear something and start to freak out....

Drive to work - uneventful maybe even fun. The toll road is a reversible with three lanes, no access for roughly 11 miles. Very nice road surface, new and smooth as glass. The car ran flawlessly, in fact, it found a sweet spot in the upper 60s that made it sound great and was really tracking and handling quite nicely, considering that I am in serious need of new front springs. Cool. Got to work without an issue. Whew!

Drive to headliner shop - interstate and city streets, busy but the car did well again. Not a problem.

Drive home, mostly interstate except for the last 10 miles or so, which is surface streets. Again, ran well, no problems. Even fired up the FrigiKing since it was nearly 80 and got some ice cubes running - well, plenty of cold air. About a mile from home I was turning through an intersection and it sounded like I ran over something small in the road. Hmm. No problem, car was running fine. Probably a big rock or some piece of junk I didn't see.

Pull into the garage. Need to straighten out the car a bit, so I put it in reverse. It continues to creep forward. Hmm. Put it in neutral. Creeps forward. OK, I'll just leave it here and I'll park the wife's SL500 so she doesn't bang the door into my car, since it was encroaching into her space a little.

Get down on my hands and knees and take a look under the car. This is what I saw (see below - look at the very center of the picture.)






Yup. Transmission linkage bushing failed. Got a couple on their way from the MB warehouse in Jacksonville. I totally trust this car now.

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Re: W111 1965 220SEb "Restoration" Project
« Reply #40 on: February 08, 2019, 08:30:08 PM »
A-ha, the dreaded linkage bushing! What great timing for it to go out.
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« Reply #41 on: February 08, 2019, 08:37:56 PM »
Yeah, really. The car was watching out for me.....

What's funny is that I swear I checked the bushing when I first got the car, because I know these have a tendency to fail as they age. I can only assume it was really brittle and the banging around on the road must have done it in. Otherwise, the car performed quite well.

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Re: W111 1965 220SEb "Restoration" Project
« Reply #42 on: February 10, 2019, 04:34:09 PM »
Started on the finish coat for my dash/door/windshield wood pieces today as the weather has cooperated pretty well. The windshield pieces are taking longer to dry than the others, but I'm working on a second coat on everything so far. I may be able to get more done tomorrow, hopefully. I figure to get the level of finish I am looking for I'll end up with about 5-6 coats of clear varnish on everything, if not more. The grain is really coming through on the lower windshield pieces, so those might end up with more to level everything off. The door window surrounds should be fine, as they're pretty flat with almost no grain to speak of. Same with the windshield surrounds.

First coat gets a 320 grit sanding before being recoated, next coat will get 400, then I'll start in with 1000 or 1200 until I get a level of gloss I'm happy with.

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Re: W111 1965 220SEb "Restoration" Project
« Reply #43 on: February 11, 2019, 08:08:08 PM »
Getting caught up from the last week or so of work:

http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/2/11_Carapalooza!.html

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